The Future

Gavras

Master Poster
Next year, to the 3080 (or Ti). That's for VR on my Index though and nothing to do with 1080p gaming. For 1080p I would never even have considered spending on the 2080. I like a bit of extra juice so I would have went for the 2060 if all I was doing was gaming on my TV (the 1660 Super would more than have had me covered).

I honestly believe you have thrown the best part of £1k away by getting the Ti 3 weeks ago. It's less powerful than the soon to be released £500 3070, never mind the newly released 3080 at £700. With all things considered the soon to be released 3060 is MASSIVE overkill for your uses but still around £800 less than your purchase.
One of the most overused word connected with graphics cards (and various reviewers must take some blame), is that of Ultra settings.

we had a quick poll this morning (at end of Dev call) on how many played with settings on Ultra, answer was zero.

majority played on Custom - with a couple options changed from Ultra depending on the game, the rest just on high as it was simpler.

personally games review should be carried out with things like motion blur (unless driving game etc), Depth of field, dynamic bloody reflections - sparkle sparkle setting, either turned off or really toned down, for the vast majority of games they add nothing or in the games of dynamic bloody reflections can spoil the game due to distraction or just being utterly pointless.

that would then give a bit more of a realistic assessment of cards across all price points for various plethora of screen.

Because I nearly always tone down dynamic lighting, I know I save a good bit on FPS and in most cases improves game play due to lack of glitter ball.

it does seem to be a bit of binary thinking with ultra, I assume quite a few treat their loud pedal in the car the same way lol.

The card needs to match the monitor but also the buyer really needs to take in to account the types of games they play AND their normal game settings preferences.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
There's this fundamental unfounded expectation that a higher tier graphics card produces better visuals.

That's completely not the case.

Any GPU in the same range produces EXACTLY the same visual quality, it's just the amount of pixels or 'power' that it's able to render at a given refresh rate.

There is going to be ZERO difference between a 2080ti and a 2060 Super at full settings on a 1080p 144Hz screen, it's simply throwing money away. Completely pointless.

Even more pointless when you factor in the EXTREME price difference and power improvements of the 3000 series.

I'm afraid it was just a really poor purchase, you really should have listened to us.
 

SM0KEY

Member
Next year, to the 3080 (or Ti). That's for VR on my Index though and nothing to do with 1080p gaming. For 1080p I would never even have considered spending on the 2080. I like a bit of extra juice so I would have went for the 2060 if all I was doing was gaming on my TV (the 1660 Super would more than have had me covered).

I honestly believe you have thrown the best part of £1k away by getting the Ti 3 weeks ago. It's less powerful than the soon to be released £500 3070, never mind the newly released 3080 at £700. With all things considered the soon to be released 3060 is MASSIVE overkill for your uses but still around £800 less than your purchase.
I agree, think It was "dog and bone" situation, i saw a bone i liked, and ran.
I did say at very start, im very new to this gaming world, and if i knew what you telling me right at start, maybe I would of waited but having said that, take away the money for a min, is the rig future proof for a few years if im happy with 1440p?
There isn't anymore surprises? Ie my motherboard is obsolescence this time next year or ram no good in 18months time? Or my case fulls apart after certain temperature.. maybe not the last one lol (i hope)
I do appreciate your time in answering
 

SM0KEY

Member
There's this fundamental unfounded expectation that a higher tier graphics card produces better visuals.

That's completely not the case.

Any GPU in the same range produces EXACTLY the same visual quality, it's just the amount of pixels or 'power' that it's able to render at a given refresh rate.

There is going to be ZERO difference between a 2080ti and a 2060 Super at full settings on a 1080p 144Hz screen, it's simply throwing money away. Completely pointless.

Even more pointless when you factor in the EXTREME price difference and power improvements of the 3000 series.

I'm afraid it was just a really poor purchase, you really should have listened to us.
I ask you the same advice i did scott ☝🏼

And again i do appreciate the time your putting in
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
It certainly won't fall apart. The surrounding parts are OK for the level of system, some better... some worse but all OK. The OC should see you gaming at a good level for a number of years I imagine. With regards to 1440p, there's no real way of knowing as the future tech is a bit of an unknown. There's the ole "ultra" can of worms comes into place too. The 2080Ti struggles a bit with Ray Tracing, where the new cards have more cores for RT. With that in mind newer cards are always going to perform better even when they are tiers below.

If you have the settings at a level where you are happy then everything should run just fine for as long as you want it to. When you feel the experience is lacking a bit then it's time for a change.

I would advise asking for advise before the purchase next time though :D
 

SM0KEY

Member
Must be karma happening here gents, problem after problem, issues after issues, Device manager picking up two USB device not recognised(port reset failed) i think its to do with commander pro, as its not showing up in Icue and when i rolled back drivers, it popped up for all of 5 mins and disappeared again and straight after error message "unknown usb device (port reset failed)
good times ;(
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
USB drivers can be particularly pesky. Rolling back often causes nothing but trouble with them. Sometimes simply removing the USB connection and then re-connecting it can fix issues (it did for me with my own system). Other times you get to the point where it's simpler to reinstall with the latest version of windows, having the latest chipset drivers already downloaded and ready to install.
 

SM0KEY

Member
USB drivers can be particularly pesky. Rolling back often causes nothing but trouble with them. Sometimes simply removing the USB connection and then re-connecting it can fix issues (it did for me with my own system). Other times you get to the point where it's simpler to reinstall with the latest version of windows, having the latest chipset drivers already downloaded and ready to install.
Your quick and helpful replies, you should have a donation page! .. i did think about reinstalling windows as fresh start but didnt know if i should do a install and keep files or a completely fresh one.
if i have to resend the system for a 4th time, i dont think my ticker can take it lol
 
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