johnboy412000
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In which case mines a 7th Generation. Needs to be at least an 8th Generation. Working on that idea. I got 2 years to sort it.
Windows 11
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johnboy412000
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According to the ASUS website my Motherboard is compatible with Windows 11.
SpyderTracks
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Not sure where you're seeing that but it can't take 8th gen or above which are required for windows 11.
This is the CPU support list for that mobo:
H110M-R - Support
www.asus.com
You're going around in circles unfortunately. It's a ploy on terminology. Technically it is compatible with Windows 11. The issue is that the processor isn't. In order to get a processor shoehorned into the Motherboard takes a lot of BIOS fettling.
B4zookaw
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By the time 2025 comes around, you'll be looking to replace your current build if you want to be playing modern games at a decent performance level anyway.
ubuysa
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with this view. Windows 11 is not just a fancy Windows 10, and it's not supported on pre-8th gen CPUs just because Microsoft want people to upgrade.
Windows 11 was developed because the CPU vendors (Intel and AMD) were producing CPUs with improved hardware security built in to the chips, and Microsoft wanted to take advantage of those hardware features to improve the security within Windows. This left Microsoft with a dilemma, had they simply upgraded Windows 10 to use these new features, then something like 70% of all Windows 10 based PCs , with CPUs that did not contain the newer security features, would have stopped working!
Microsoft thus decided (rightly IMO) to introduce WIndows 11, which did require a CPU with the newer security features (8th gen or later), and which would not be supported on earlier CPUs. For all those of us running earlier CPUs, Microsoft pledged to support Windows 10 until 2025, which is long enough for everyone to upgrade should they chose to.
It IS possible to install and run Windows 11 on CPUs earlier than 8th gen. I've had it running on my 6th gen CPU for example. The problem with this, apart from the fact that not all Windows 11 security features are active, is that some of the main security features (HVCI for example) have to be emulated in Windows 11 (because the older CPU doesn't have the required hardware). This emulation causes a noticeable performance hit, so gamers in particular will not be happy.
The bottom line is that Microsoft are unlikely in the extreme to ever support Windows 11 on early CPUs, because it was designed specifically for CPUs with the newer hardware features. We all know how foolish it is to run with an unsupported OS.
SpyderTracks
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Further to this, 2025 when windows 10 expires aligns with almost every major hardware manufacturer stopping support for any devices without a TPM.
You'll notice that windows 11 systems invariably ask you to use some form of windows hello sign in, often biometric.
Biometrics cannot work without a TPM
My guess is the major providers will be doing away with password access around 2025 and biometrics will become the norm.
This has been a major point of contention in IT for at least 15 years, with the success of 2fa, it's now wholly viable
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Martinr36
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I hope not as things like face recognition and finger prints is so unreliable
SpyderTracks
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They've got 2 years to perfect it.
It's night and day on an apple device, extremely reliable, we just need the others to catch up.
But I wouldn't be surprised given the importance as of how easy it is to hack a password these days if they create an open standard for readers so that everyone is basing it off a basic requirement that standard amongst all manufacturers.
That's my hope anyway
Martinr36
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Finger print used to work well on both my LG V50 and fold Z2, then i started work at Tesco and opening store ready display cardboard boxes has obviously affected my fingerprints and now neither device reads them unless I delete and redo them regularly, as for face recognition on my tab 7fe, I don't think that's ever really worked,so i use my pin all the time now
SpyderTracks
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My Samsung Android sucks at both fingerprint and face, I don't bother with it. It's an android thing though, any apple device is miles ahead, especially with FaceID
Martinr36
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I'd never have one.........lol
Just looked at face sign in on laptop, and get the message as below
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Martinr36
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yeah mine and my friends satnav knows its me driving by the way I talk to her
sck451
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My Pixel 6 is superb at both. Not quite as good as the Pixel 3 was (RIP) but it's still first time 90+% of the time.
S20+ is fantastic with the fingerprint (and onwards). I had the S9 that was decent too, but the S7 wasn't too hot. Windows Hello facial recognition works great for me in good light, not ideal though. Fingerprint readers on laptops have always been hit or miss for me.
I've got an iPhone for work and the sensor on it is really good as well.
Wouldn't be at all surprised if biometrics become the preferred option, it already is with Windows IMO as it pushes you towards it if you have the appropriate hardware.
I've got an iPhone for work and the sensor on it is really good as well.
Wouldn't be at all surprised if biometrics become the preferred option, it already is with Windows IMO as it pushes you towards it if you have the appropriate hardware.
TonyCarter
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I wonder whether the new 'hardware tokens' that Apple and Microsoft are enabled will allow one to use the Face-ID or Touch-ID on an Apple device to authenticate a Windows device?
I already use Face-ID on my iPhone to log-on to my Virgin Media account (on my Mac), and into our work's VPN on their laptop.
I already use Face-ID on my iPhone to log-on to my Virgin Media account (on my Mac), and into our work's VPN on their laptop.
johnboy412000
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I've got a PCSpecialist agent looking in to it for me and hopefully be able to tell me what needs doing to be able to run win 11.Not sure where you're seeing that but it can't take 8th gen or above which are required for windows 11.
This is the CPU support list for that mobo:
H110M-R - Support
SpyderTracks
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You'd need to replace it as the motherboard can't support a CPU upgrade which I'd required for windows 11
I have a feeling this is falling in deaf ears though as we've said the same thing 4 times or so
johnboy412000
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Yeah mines hit and miss. I have both Facial and finger print as well as password.