johnboy412000
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Yeah by then it'll be 7 years old and probably like me sluggish lol.
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johnboy412000
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So therefore I may have to upgrade the Motherboard amongst other things. Working on that one. Buying a new computer isn't that easy going by the prices for a good one that will play games like AC Valhalla.
Martinr36
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you've got 2 years to save.........
johnboy412000
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Very true.
I haven't tried Angry Birds lately but hopefully I won't have to buy a new computer just yet.
Martinr36
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You're better off playing it on phone as you get more bonus options
SpyderTracks
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You're missing the scale of it.
You have to upgrade the motherboard, and hence the CPU, plus M2 drives are now standard as OS drives at least. The case wouldn't be suitable for any modern platform, the PSU is past it's safe running, and too small anyway for a modern platform. The RAM as well will be too slow for modern processors.
You could carry over the drives and that's it. It's not an upgradeable system.
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RS2OOO
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This, 75% of taskbar real estate is completely wasted because you cannot uncombine taskbar icons. i.e 10 folders open and they all combine under a single folder icon in the taskbar, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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It's designed to use virtual desktops like in windows 10 so each desktop has it's own pinned buttonsThis, 75% of taskbar real estate is completely wasted because you cannot uncombine taskbar icons. i.e 10 folders open and they all combine under a single folder icon in the taskbar, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Virtual desktops is really powerful if you get into it
Martinr36
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With file explorer folder icons you only need one as that's the idea of tabs in windows explorer, loads of room on my task barThis, 75% of taskbar real estate is completely wasted because you cannot uncombine taskbar icons. i.e 10 folders open and they all combine under a single folder icon in the taskbar, and there's nothing you can do about it.
RS2OOO
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You might be right.
But a huge portion of the world with billions of people are undeveloped / developing markets. Microsoft has always been at the forefront of 'supporting' these nations. I am certain something will change to enable these markets access to Windows 11 once support stops for previous versions.
I remember being in Northern Thailand in around 2006/7 and seeing genuine retail packaged Windows and Office bundles for sale for around £6-£9. I could not work out how these "fakes" looked so genuine and had genuine keys. Being peeved that I'd just paid over £180 for a Windows disc I did some research and disovered these were all genuine MS products, being sold/donated by MS to get developing worlds hooked on their products.
I can't see Microsoft just leaving these nations behind now, especially as we already know there's workarounds to install Win11 on unsupported hardware and avoiding TPM requirements. I guarantee if you go to India / Malaysia / Africa in 2025 you will see Windows 11 running everywhere on dusty old dual core PCs.
RS2OOO
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Personally I dislike the tabs feature. If you have 3 or 4 drives open and are moving files between them it becomes too easy to move something to the wrong place.
So far there have been over 800,000 requests to bring back uncombine taskbar option, so if I am in a minority, it is quite a large one.
SpyderTracks
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There are always the people who want stuff to be the same. Was the same with windows 10 all the way back to windows ME.
Software develops and very rightfully too. As programming improves, new ways of working are quicker.
People need to move with development, not for manufactures to support legacy ways of working.
And BTW, these interface changes are exactly the same on Linux or MacOS, it's just the nature of development.
TonyCarter
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...and I don't use any of the 'new' ways on my Macs either. I have so many year's of muscle/finger-combo memory that anything that interferes with that takes ages to re-learn.
I tried and then refused to use Spaces, Launchpad, Exposé, Mission Control, etc.
Things that made my life simpler I was happy to adopt, otherwise I never used them again.
Although the most annoying thing is when they change the way a UI item works without making it clear, e.g.:
- Changing 'New Folder' from Command-N to Command-Shift-N.....WHY!!!!
- Changing the 'Maximise Window' button so that it went 'Full Screen', and you have to hold [alt] down to get the old feature...WHY!!!
- Changing the highlighting of icons/file lists into coloured buttons at the front of the filename...which are not as easy to see (I know why on this one, but I don't agree)
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johnboy412000
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Sounds like a lot of polarva and I'll probably end up buying a new computer in the end. Got 2 years anyway.
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You must appreciate that there will be a reason why and it's likely to do with the move to Apple Silicon which they had to rewrite the entire OS for.
They don't just do these things for the sake of it, there are legitimate reasons behind the scenes that users will never appreciate without looking through the code.
And the users who rally against it are usually the minority and dare I say it tend to be older users. And I totally get that, I'm work in the field, and the changes that happen in Azure are literally weekly, just as you've got comfortable with a process they damn change it, and yes it's very frustrating, but it is done for a reason. But the closer I get to 50, each day, the less comfortable I am with change.
Those users have the option to remain on legacy environments, or use mod hacks to maintain old OS styles, but that needs to remain a mod, and not for developers to have to try to improve workflows without changing the UI as that isn't a viable policy.
RS2OOO
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There are without doubt aspects of Windows 11 that are form over function.
I have work to do, deadlines to achieve, hovering my mouse over an excel icon trying to figure out which of the 6 open spreadsheets is the one I need to add data into, whilst receiving information on a phonecall , is totally unproductive. Just 'cos the UI looks slicker does not automatically mean progress is being made.
Whereas all previous windows versions have shown each instance of the program in the task bar with text preface (hence the name - tasks).
Totally unproductive. Nobody wants Windows to be like MacOS, these OSs attract entirely different spectrums of users with different wants and needs.
The fact there are so many different paid programs that bring back the feauture says it all really. I think Microsoft will bring it back eventually, there's already a beta version that includes it, so just a matter of time I hope.
Old, Young, Middle Aged etc, doesn't matter, most people just want to get things done fast and efficiently, and I cannot see any way that can be achieved in this particular instance. If you have a solution (that's already integrated) I'm all ears.
Edit: And the other thing that's a time killer is the fact you can't drag files into the taskbar icon like you used to, so if you are dragging a link, program, file etc from one window to another you have to physically have both open on the screen (especially annoying for single screen users). Another productivity killer that's a step backwards. Obviously there are many and we could list them all day like the extra number of clicks everything seems to need, point is, Win 11 does not do a lot to improve productivity.
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SpyderTracks
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It's completely within your power to use something like ExplorerPatcher if you want to change that. There's nothing stopping you, and that's what it's there for.
Get the Windows 10 taskbar back on Windows 11
Windows 11 put an end to the classic Windows taskbar. If you're missing this feature, ExplorerPatcher can help you get it back.
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This tends to be the thing on windows is people don't realise that it's fully customisable. On every new version of windows, there's always a mod released to mimic previous behaviour for those that don't like change.
RS2OOO
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It's completely within your power to use something like ExplorerPatcher if you want to change that. There's nothing stopping you, and that's what it's there for.
Get the Windows 10 taskbar back on Windows 11
Windows 11 put an end to the classic Windows taskbar. If you're missing this feature, ExplorerPatcher can help you get it back.
This tends to be the thing on windows is people don't realise that it's fully customisable. On every new version of windows, there's always a mod released to mimic previous behaviour for those that don't like change.
TBH I was frightened of installing that, or anything similar.
Installed startallback which is a very popular paid software to implement the Win 10 task bar and start menu, and I got BSOD on the next boot up. If you dig a little deeper you'll find a lot of people installing similar hacks are reporting various issues, like the task bar or start menu disappearing altogether, or moving off the side of the screen etc. A quick google reveals similar comments by some Explorer Patcher users.
SpyderTracks
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But you must realise that MacOS, same with every other OS (aside from Linux who has a minority mobile side) are strongly pushing integration with mobile devices, leading to a more normalised OS on both formats.
And this absolutely needs to happen, PC's now are a secondary compute unit, there are far more mobile devices and tablets being used in the workplace as endpoints sending back to a server than there are computers.
The devlopers are well aware of this, and that's what Windows 8.1 and MacOS big sur were the first to really aim to start the integration. Big Sur was a complete re-write to apple silicon, it wasn't a minor change.