INCOMING!!!

[sck451]

Similar here! I think I'm gonna push to a higher budget though since I tend to do a lot of CPU-intensive stuff and I want to be prepared for a few years of good hammer lol

The reviews I've seen so far definitely look promising, though with the changed boost management the temperatures sound mildly terrifying lol. AMD says it's fine and I guess we'll have to take them at their word, but I guess I'm gonna be spending on a strong cooler to get as much out of it as possible, and I do hope that outside of 100% usage long tasks it doesn't spend too long at 95C otherwise my room is gonna get toasty in the summer (at least it'll be a good dual-purpose heater during the winter! 😂)

I'm still not 100% decided on what to do about GPUs but I'm leaning towards just going big now tbh, though the call of new generation graphics hardware is certainly tempting, even if it's gonna take some bravery to open up the machine so soon!

Either way, I'm definitely gonna be spending the coming days configuring the setup and seeking advice! I'm certainly more than a little excited to get a new machine into my hands!

The actual temperature of the CPU doesn't make a difference to how hot your room will be. It's only the power draw of the CPU that will do that.

 

[TonyCarter]

But if the CPU sits at 90-95°c most of the time, you’ll have to have a fairly strange fan curve on your AIO to stop it running at 100% all the time.

Zero rpm until 93°c maybe

 

[SimonPeters116]

The actual temperature of the CPU doesn't make a difference to how hot your room will be. It's only the power draw of the CPU that will do that.

I'd have thought a radiator and fan cooling a cpu would have meant pushing warmed air out into a room. It may only be a small temp' difference to the air in a room, but that's how heat pumps work, isn't it

 

[B4zookaw]

But if the CPU sits at 90-95°c most of the time, you’ll have to have a fairly strange fan curve on your AIO to stop it running at 100% all the time.

Zero rpm until 93°c maybe

Yes, you'd want a strong cooler that can run at 50-60% speed and keep the temps of CPU in check, so you don't have a hair dryer on the desk beside you.

 

[sck451]

I'd have thought a radiator and fan cooling a cpu would have meant pushing warmed air out into a room. It may only be a small temp' difference to the air in a room, but that's how heat pumps work, isn't it

Of course. But I could run one CPU at 65W and a passive cooler and get it up to 95°C, or I could run another at 240W and a massive beast of a cooler and get it to the same temperature. The CPU temperatures are the same: it's how much power it's putting out that matters. That's why heaters are marketed according to how many watts of power that put out, rather than the temperature of the element.

I'm not saying the temperature doesn't matter, just that it's not as simple as "hot CPU, hot room".

 

[SimonPeters116]

Of course. But I could run one CPU at 65W and a passive cooler and get it up to 95°C, or I could run another at 240W and a massive beast of a cooler and get it to the same temperature. The CPU temperatures are the same: it's how much power it's putting out that matters. That's why heaters are marketed according to how many watts of power that put out, rather than the temperature of the element.

I'm not saying the temperature doesn't matter, just that it's not as simple as "hot CPU, hot room".

Ah, got you now. Although we're talking about heating elements of around 120W
I wasn't suggesting "hot cpu, hot room" exactly, but shirley it would make a difference?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Nothing live yet

I wonder when they'll hit? 9am UK normal time, or 16:00 for the US time of 9am?

I think we can all agree, the X670 boards are looking to be crazy expensive generally, certainly with the early offerings.

I think especially with the R5 7600x, it's not going to make sense to pair it with anything other than a B650 board which aren't released for another week or two.

 

[sck451]

Nothing live yet

I wonder when they'll hit? 9am UK normal time, or 16:00 for the US time of 9am?

I think we can all agree, the X670 boards are looking to be crazy expensive generally, certainly with the early offerings.

I think especially with the R5 7600x, it's not going to make sense to pair it with anything other than a B650 board which aren't released for another week or two.

The review embargo was lifted at 2pm UK time. So I'd guess either 9am or then.

 

[stegor]

GN don't rate the 7600 for value.
I would wait for Intel 13 series before buying one of these.

 

[SpyderTracks]

GN don't rate the 7600 for value.
I would wait for Intel 13 series before buying one of these.

I pretty much confirm that Intel's will be more expensive. Intel have already confirmed they're raising CPU prices by 20% alone.

Intel 13th Gen Raptor Lake Desktop CPUs will be Up to $140 More Expensive than 12th Gen Alder Lake [MLID Leak] | Hardware Times

We’ve been hearing multiple reports of impending price hikes for Intel’s present and next-gen processors. The latest confirmation comes from Tom (Moore’s Law is Dead) who believes that the 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs will be anywhere between $70 to $140 pricer than their 12th Gen predecessors, at...

www.hardwaretimes.com

We know thermally they're gonna be insane and that means thermal throttling with Intel

It's down to the motherboard cost.

 

[stegor]

The 12600K already pretty much matches it and throw in motherboard/cooler/memory/power and AMD makes no sense.

 

[Rakk]

Think I'm going to wait til Jan/Feb ie once the Intels are out, things have settled down and there have been plenty of reviews and such (and Christmas is over and down with)

 

[SpyderTracks]

The 12600K already pretty much matches it and throw in motherboard/cooler/memory/power and AMD makes no sense.

If you're only factoring in gaming at 1080p then sure, but I know very few people (mainly competitive) who do that. Most people would be doing multicore tasks alongside gaming like streaming or editing.

Scratch the above, you're entirely right, even in multicore it doesn't beat the 12600k.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Here's the GN 7900x review which is the processor i'm personally looking at

 

[Charlielrb]

My main concern is the pricing meets my budget.

Hoping the motherboard and 7700x Pairing are not to costly!

 

[SpyderTracks]

My main concern is the pricing meets my budget.

Hoping the motherboard and 7700x Pairing are not to costly!

If budget is a concern it's worth waiting a week or so for the B650 boards which should be significantly cheaper than X670 with a few tradeoffs

 

[Charlielrb]

If budget is a concern it's worth waiting a week or so for the B650 boards which should be significantly cheaper than X670 with a few tradeoffs

Its not to much of a concern! Im looking at around £2-£2.4k. Its more of a "less shock" the better.

I just like to set a price estimate in my head!

Also! Nothing Live in the site at 9am!

 

[SimonPeters116]

Its not to much of a concern! Im looking at around £2-£2.4k. Its more of a "less shock" the better.

I just like to set a price estimate in my head!

Also! Nothing Live in the site at 9am!

Same for me, and nothing Live at 10:00 😔
I guess it'll be this afternoon.

 

[stegor]

Here's the GN 7900x review which is the processor i'm personally looking at

This looks a much better bet than the others. Good all round CPU.

 

[SpyderTracks]

This looks a much better bet than the others. Good all round CPU.

It's a real powerhouse if you're factoring in any production / creative process, it's on my Plex Server which I also use as a gaming rig, so it's on 24/7 and encoding video streams on the CPU, although some is offloaded to the GPU, but I tend to turn that off for gaming.